rebel8 - lovely template darling, just lovely. Sounds sooooooooo like them.
sweet tee
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Cats a JW no-no?
by Confession ini stumbled across what appears to be a website maintained by a jw circuit overseer.
on it he includes what looks like a question from readers.
it has very strong things to say about the 'beastliness' of cats--and why christians should consider whether or not it is proper to have them in our homes.
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"Please wrap me in a Roman Toga" - Russell's Last Words?
by slimboyfat ini had never heard this before, but according to royston pike those were russell's last words.
can anyone verify this, or show where this story comes from?
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sweet tee
(psst. If I'm caught ROFLMAO at work I'll get in trouble )
A funny slimboyfat thread ... so unexpected
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Talked to an older Dub I knew as a child last week at BJ's >>>>>>
by WingCommander ini thought i'd share my experience.
for those of you not familiar with some stores here in the usa, bj's is a wholesale chain very similar to walmart's sam's club.
it's a discount warehouse.
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sweet tee
That was a real display of Christian love. Kudos to you for that. You probably made his day.
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Bitter, Better or Both?
by damselfly indo you feel that you are still bitter towards jw's?
or do you feel that you are better off without them?
maybe you feel both bitter and better?.
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sweet tee
I was bitter toward the dubs when I first left because of the shunning. I shunned them back! I haven't had any personal animosity towards individual wits in years. It was probably a bi-product of fear, guilt or shame anyway. It takes time to come to terms with leaving the former way of life behind. Things are so much better for me outside of the b0rg that I don't have time to be bitter. Not at the R&F anyway - the GB is another story though. They irk me. Seriously.
Thinking you're better than someone else is a waste of time. The only person I want to be better than ... is ME .
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Society's position on illegal aliens
by sir82 inone of the things that has always irked me is the society's position on illegal aliens.. paraphrasing a us boe letter (can't remember the date, not a recent one though), elders were instructed that they are not "policemen", not responsible for enforcing "caesar's laws".
so, if there are any illegal aliens in the congregation, elders do not report them to any authority.
no (congregational) disciplanary action at all is taken against them.. however, illegal aliens are not "exemplary", in that they are knowingly breaking caesar's laws.
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sweet tee
Elders would love to utilize many publishers in this situation as many of them are very zelous in the preaching work.
If the elders would looooooovvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeee to use them, then why don't they? Why do the governing boobies have to be so legalistic about everything? What Bible principle are these two-faced liars basing this BS upon? Just another way to humiliate people by lording their authority over them while still using them to their advantage. Sickening.
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Putting on the new personality
by mrs rocky2 ini remember sitting through countless meetings, convention, and assemblies and having the scripture about putting away the old personality and putting on the new personality hounded into us repeatedly.
in retrospect, it appears wt wanted us to give up any personality or individualism and conform to a new personality based on wt mandates and become a mindless drone.
i am so happy to be free to be me and no longer driven by guilt to conform to a mans interpretation of god.. when we lose the right to be different, we lose the privilege to be free.
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I believe the 'putting on of the new personality' is part of the reason life after leaving the dubs is so difficult. To leave is to reclaim ones own identity, and individuality. It takes time to discover who you truly are apart from the b0rg and let one's creativity flow. Knowing the truth about the lie has made the transformation much easier for me now.
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Why did you then and dubs now have faith in the divine appointment?
by Check_Your_Premises ini asked a dub this question, and have heard similar things in the past.
if i asked a dub why they believe in the divine appointment of the watchtower as jehovah's one and only organization i think they would answer in the following way.. 1. because of the success of the org, and all the info they put out, and the preaching work.
it has to be divinely directed, there is no other explanation.. 2. because of how well what the org teaches matches up with the bible.. 3. there has to be one true religion!
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sweet tee
Ans: Because we are the ONLY religion that glorifies the name of the father (as in the 'model' prayer - ("why don't they call it the Lord's prayer like everyone else???)) Who else follows the admonition: "go therefore and make disciples ...." Who else is giving the slaves "proper food at the proper time?". Finally, who else is "no part of the world" like we are .............................. THIS IS SICKENING EVEN TO TYPE!!!! -
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Ex-jw who joined as adults: How did you come to trust your own conscience?
by Check_Your_Premises insorry no raised-a-dub responses here!
just ex-jw who joined as adults.
on another thread i pointed out the idea that most jw who join as adults, do so out of a need to compensate for or as a reaction to some bad experiences such as physical abuse, sexual abuse, a time of upheaval, or just a plain old poorly developed sense of self.
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How did that personal growth come about?
It started just by working full-time. I was exposed to different ideas as I got to know my coworkers. Then when in corporate America I had the chance to go for various training, assertiveness, communication, real estate license, Franklin Covey workshops, etc. Things that made me have to think and use my underutilized brain. It's no wonder the society stresses full-time
booksalespioneering and lonely jobs - the REAL WORLD isn't nearly as frightening as they'd have people believe (you may actually learn something from them) If you're not familiar with the Franklin Covey method, it teaches habits for personal organization and being highly effective. The focus is on principles, paradigm shifts, values, circle of influence, roles and relationships. I've been using it since the late 90's.Were there experiences apart from the ones cited that helped you to have confidence in yourself? That built trust in yourself?
When my ex and I went to the 'brothers' for financial assistance but their help was conditional I knew I/we couldn't depend on them for anything if we really needed them. They helped me become more independent. No independent thought, no independent action. From then on I was no longer trying to lead on the congregation - in fact, I was SICK of looking to them for answers and getting nothing and nowhere. I then started making my own decisions in small things, like music and other entertainment. The one incident that broke the spell for me was an interview with a gospel singer who was very devoted to her mission. "Why would God destroy this devout woman just because she doesn't believe as I believe?" Once I asked myself that question I had one foot out the door. I really began looking at the b0rg. with a more critical eye.
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Reasons to make you leave a spouse/partner
by greendawn inwhat would it take for you to break up a relationship with someone you really love?
would it be physical abuse, refusing to go out and work, abuse of child, or whatever else?
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Lack of gainful employement
Abuse
Infidelity
Staying for the sake of the children - NO! Children are better off in a stable loving environment with one parent than a marriage that is filled with strife, distrust, depression, mental/verbal/phisical abuse etc.
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144,000 on The Simpsons
by sixsixsixtynine inin last nights episode of the simpsons, homer goes to see the movie "left below", and subsequently becomes obsessed with the rapture.
when they show an equation he's working on to determine when it will come, one of the numbers is 144,000!.
do any other religions besides the witnesses and adventists use that number?
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sweet tee
"Do you ever think that maybe we're wasting our time, and should go get real jobs?" Then they throw their magazines on the ground and walk away!
ROFLMAO!!! Great quote to use when the witlesses come to your door !